Vice-Presidential Debate LIVEBLOG

Finally, this day has come.

I am optimistic for Sarah.  That is all I will say.

**BEGIN**

Palin looks DEVASTATING in the black suit!

Joe lookin’ suave.

Palin: “Can I call you Joe?” BRILLIANT!

Biden: Last 8 years…blah blah blah…blame “deregulation” (WHY)…hawking Obama criteria…doing a good job of connecting with audience, although a little condescending…”middle class” (shot time)

Palin: citing a kid’s soccer game (smart angle), “fear” the “barometer”…looking a little robotic on topic of McCain, but has dissipated…Biden looking bitter…

Biden: citing “violence against women” act, “I have almost as many friends on the Republican side of the aisle as I do on the Democratic side of the aisle” (BS)…”fundamentals of the economy are strong” canard cited AGAIN (>_<)…

Palin: “John McCain was talking to and talking about the American workforce” (BRILLIANT!) “team of mavericks”…”we’re known for putting partisan politics aside”…”96% of [Obama’s] votes along party line”…”I do respect your years in the US Senate but the American people are expecting something new”

Ifill: Neither of you answered that question!

Palin: “DARN RIGHT it was the predator lenders!”…”there was deception there…and there was greed…and there is corruption on Wall Street”…”Joe Six-Pack” heh…”Never Again”…”we demand from the federal government strict oversight of those entities”…”let’s do what our parents told us…don’t live outside our means”…”we have an opportunity to learn a heck of a lot of good lessons”

Biden: zzz attacking McCain zzz it’s McCain’s fault zzz de-regulation zzz attack free markets zzz tangent off to healthcare zzz “my local gas station” (he doesn’t drive!)

Palin: “darn right we need tax relief for Americans” WOO! “Barack had 94 opportunities to side on the people’s side and he voted 94 times…against a tax decrease” BIDEN IS P-O-ED

Biden: “McCain voted 477 times to raise taxes” wtf…attacking deregulation

Palin: “I wanna correct you on that again”…”I’m gonna talk straight to the American people” talks about regulation

Ifill: stops Palin short

Biden: “Where I come from it’s called Fairness” (really…Delaware?) promising not to raise capital-gains tax (HAH!) citing 95% statistic again…middle-class “listening to this broadcast”…”we have a different value set”…wealthy “will pay no more than they did under Ronald Reagan”

Palin: “you’re forgetting the millions of small businesses fitting in that category”…Obama’s proposal…telling government to step away is patriotic…”unless you’re pleased with the way the government has been running anything lately”…”affordability and accessibility” the key

Biden: refutes Palin’s statistics…McCain “taxes every one of you out there” on your healthcare benefits…”20 million of you are gonna be dropped”…”I call that the ultimate bridge to nowhere!”

Ifill: doesn’t give Palin a rebuttal…>_<

Biden: we’re cutting the doubling of foreign aid…we’re not supporting tax cuts…”the light is blinking!”…”I call that unpatriotic!”

Palin: “McCain doesn’t tell one thing to one group and something else to another group”…pwns Biden on Obama VOTING FOR tax breaks for oil companies “that wasn’t gonna happen in my state!”…”they’re not my biggest fans”…”my area of expertise” is energy…”how long have I been at this…5 weeks?” “stop the greed and corruption on Wall Street”…”I don’t believe John McCain has made any promise he can’t keep”

Biden: McCain “adding $4 billion tax cut for [energy companies]”…says Palin passed windfall-profits tax (NO! NO! NO!)

Palin: “appreciate John McCain’s call of reform”…”we have John McCain to thank…we have to fix this “problem”…”crisis”…”toxic mess”

Biden: Obama “saw the glass half-empty, I saw the glass as half-full”…”you better get on the stick here”…”I’m not sure of this” (duh…)

Palin: “we have to consider all that we can” when it comes to energy…slams “East-coast politicians”…”we’re circulating about $700 million a year” to “countries that don’t like us”…”energy independence is the key to America’s future”

Palin: “as the nation’s only arctic state”…”I’m not one to attribute every activity of man to every change in the climate”…”I don’t want to argue about the causes”…how can we “positively affect the impacts”..”I was the first governor to form a Climate Change SubCabinet”…we must have an “all-of-the-above approach”

Biden: “I think it is man-made.  I think it’s clearly man-made”…”if you don’t understand what the cause is, it’s impossible to come up with a solution” (nice folksy statement, Joe)…let’s “invest in clean coal” (HAHAHAHAH)…”drill we must…” 10-year canard…

Ifill slaps Biden on clean coal, McCain’s record (muffin basket coming your way!)

Palin: cites natural gas…cites ObamaBiden as saying that environmentally-friendly drilling is “raping the outer continental shelf”…slaps Biden on clean coal…supports capping carbon emission

Biden: “just take a look at the record” on clean coal…”was taken out of context” (ahh yes…of course…) “why did John vote 20 times”

Ifill questions Biden on same-sex benefits citing that they have them in AK (brilliant!)

Biden: panders to same-sex couples…”it’s what the Constitution calls for” (uhh…no.)

Palin: “I am tolerant”…”I have a very diverse family and group of friends”…endorses visitations, contracts…”I don’t support” redefining marraige

Biden: Do you support gay marraige? “No” (keep this clip)…”we really don’t have a difference”

Palin: on exit strategy…talks about how Obama voted against funding troops…”I respected you when you called him out on that” to Biden…”it would be a travesty if we quit now in Iraq”

Biden: says axis between Obama/Maliki/Bush…”Barack Obama and I agree fully on one thing…you’ve got to have a timeline”…”Barack says it’s time for them to spend their own money”…”this is a fundamental difference between us…we will end this war”

Palin: “Your plan is a white flag of surrender in Iraq” (line of the night!)

Biden: “God love him, but he’s been dead wrong” on McCain

Biden: Iran and Pakistan “both extremely dangerous”…”they’d both be gamechangers”…”if an attack comes on the homeland…it will come from…al-Qaeda in the hills of Afghanistan and Pakistan”…”there have been 7,000 madrassas built along that border”…”that’s where bin Laden lives”

Palin: Gen. Petraeus and al-Qaeda called central front of war on terror in Iraq…Ahmadinejad “not sane or stable”…”Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-Il, The Castro Brothers” dangerous…statement on meeting with them “downright dangerous”…preconditions and diplomatic efforts

Palin: Kissinger “shared with me his passion of diplomacy”…they hate “our democracy, our tolerance, our womens’ rights”…”have your friends and allies ready to back ya up there”

Biden: Obama “did not say he would sit down with Ahmadinejad” (FAIL)…”Our friends and allies have been saying sit down, talk, talk, talk” (when?)…thinks allies will bail on us if we “don’t go the extra mile”…repeats Spain canard…says Spain has troops in Iraq (WTF?!?!?)

Palin: “Israel is our strongest and best ally in the Middle East”…”a Tuesday solution”…”they succeeded with Jordan…they succeeded with Egypt”…”I can promise in a McCain/Palin administration [we will be staunch friends with Israel]”

Biden: BOB DOLE MOMENT! “there is no greater supporter of Israel in the Senate than Joe Biden”…”you must back Israel” (he’s sounding hawkish!)

Palin: wants to “put obsessive partisanship aside”…”change is comin’!”

Biden: “Past is prologue”…”I haven’t heard how is policy…is going to be different than George Bush’s” (ad NAUSEAM)

Palin: “nuclear weaponry the be-all, end-all”…we use it in the US “as a deterrent”…”the surge principles need to be implemented in Afghanistan”…cites Obama’s comments about “air-raiding villages” in Afghanistan (Brilliant!)…”we will win in Afghanistan also”

Biden: “With Afghanistan, facts matter, Gwen”…”Our commanding general in Afghanistan said the surge principles WILL NOT WORK in Afghanistan”…”3 weeks in Iraq…7 years in Afghanistan”…BOB DOLE MOMENT again…

Palin: slaps Biden on Afghanistan quote

Biden: poorly refutes

Biden: “I was the first one to recommend [Bosnia]”…

Palin: I guess I am an outsider…slaps Biden on doubletalk…slaps Biden on votes…”it was a declaration of war”…I support no-fly zone, divestment from Sudan via Alaska

Biden: visit joebiden dot com! (promoting self once again)

Palin: “you can say what you wanna say a month out before” people are going to vote…McCain “knows what evil is”

Biden: I would continue Obama’s “policies”…while not stating A SINGLE POLICY…”this is the most important election you’ve ever voted in!”

Palin: “what do you expect…a team of mavericks!”…”he has never asked me to check my opinions at the door”…”I would continue the good work he’s so committed to”…”we need a little bit of reality brought from Wasilla Main Street to Washington DC”…”government…get out of my way” 

Biden: walk with me to Katy’s and Home Depot “where I spend a lot of time”…”the people in my neighborhood…they get it”

Palin: “say it ain’t so, Joe!”…”you’re going backwards again to the Bush administration”…”her reward is in heaven, right?” on Biden’s wife in education…”we need flexibility in No Child Left Behind”..shout-out to 3rd graders…”mine was a lame attempt at a joke…yours and mine”…would lead with energy independence, reform of government, and families with special-needs children

Biden: “I have a history of getting things done in the United States Senate” (like bankruptcy bills to benefit credit card companies?)…”he’s President, not me, I’ll still give him my best advice”

Palin: “we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into [the VP position]”…

Biden: “VP Cheney has been probably the most dangerous Vice-President in the history of the United States”…it belongs in the Executive Branch…he has no authority relative to the Congress (misinterpreting the Constitution!)

Ifill: Palin lacks experience, Biden lacks discipline

Palin: I was governor of a “large energy producing state”…I have experience as an average American…”that worldview that is America is a shining city on a hill”…”democracy and tolerance”…”it’s a good team, it’s a good ticket”

Biden: “I’m not gonna change”…my Achilles’ Heel is my passion (I’m just a love machine…and I won’t work for nobody but you)…gets choked up on family life

Palin: McCain is “a consummate maverick”…cites Lieberman, Giuliani, Romney, Lingle as diverse supporter base…”when the Republicans were in charge…I didn’t see a whole lot of progress there”

Biden: McCain “hasn’t been a maverick”…cites children’s healthcare canard…”he’s not been a maverick on the war” (what?!?)

Biden: I finally recognized after 5 years that ideology of judges is important (Change we can believe in!)

Palin: I regret not vetoing some budgets or cutting taxes some more…”there hasn’t been something I’ve had to compromise on…we’ve always seemed to find a way to work together”

Biden: “don’t question the motive of another member of Congress, question their judgment” (HUH?)

Palin: “you do what I did as Governor…you appoint people regardless of party identification to positions in government”…”the policies and proposals have got to speak for themselves also”…”clear choices on November 4th”

Palin Closing Statement

Biden Closing Statement

Verdict on the next post.

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One Response to “Vice-Presidential Debate LIVEBLOG”

  1. Change you can trust, a slogan that could turn around McCain’s campaign?

    Change you can trust contrasts beautifully with change you can believe in.

    Everyone wants change, only with a team that we can trust to implement it.
    If you’re in a tough spot, you want someone to come to help you that you can trust, not someone you believe may want to help you.

    John McCain, polls show, is rated as highly qualified and highly trusted. This slogan, change you can trust, reinforces this message.

    It can even be added on to John McCain’s current slogan. Country first, change you can trust. Or perhaps Change you can trust that puts Country first. Or how about Change you can trust that puts America first

    It implies without directly saying it that the other side is perhaps a little less trustworthy.

    It also reinforces the message that in a time we are facing battle with Al Qaeda worldwide and two conventional wars, John McCain is a commander in chief you can trust to lead us to victory.

    There are 30 days left before Election Day. Sarah Palin’s debate performance was good, but it’s really up to John McCain to win.

    CHANGE You Can TRUST

    CHANGE You Can TRUST to put COUNTRY FIRST

    CHANGE You Can TRUST to put AMERICA FIRST

    CHANGE – TRUST
    COUNTRY FIRST

    John, are you listening???

    http://strategicthought-charles77.blogspot.com/2008/10/change-you-can-trust-slogan-that-could.html

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